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There were entities that used a DCC mainframe. But used terminals by other vendors. Like Informer terminals. This was back in the 1980s. Informer. Based in Los Angeles. Went out of business around 1990.

NeXTSTEP didn't have such nice graphical apps because of Display PostScript. It was because of Objective-C, 100%, there's no argument. DPS being dynamic worked very well with Objc, of course, but almost nobody ever wrote anything in DPS (honestly, most developers had little to no understanding of DPS). InterfaceBuilder was almost entirely impossible without having the AppKit written in ObjC (or Smalltalk, or some similar dynamic language), and in general having everything in Objc enabled a talented developer to iterate MUCH faster than something like C++. It wasn't as simple as "object-oriented language", Objc was also dynamically bound, which has many problems, but fast iteration isn't one of them. At this point, I've written more C++ than Objc code, but I still miss Objc because it let me spend more of my time writing code rather than spending my time pleasing the compiler. [I started writing Objc code in 1988 on NS0.8, stopped in 1999 because Apple was quite unclear on whether the future was going to be Cocoa (AppKit from NeXT) or Carbon (MacOS compatibility on NeXT's Unix), and then I got drawn into another major Objc-based project in 2010 or so.]

In the very early 90s, I had a Compaq desktop that I'd rescued from the bin at work... very similar to this but in a more "traditional" desktop case and with a "massive" 20MB hard drive. The foam and foil keyboard was already starting to fail even that long ago and the hard drive was starting to stick on power on too... but I loved it's green screen. I still remember when the original IBM-PC came out, I had been using Beebs and CP/M machines for a few years and a PDP-11 for a couple more I expected this new 16-bit micro to be something really special... but it was just the same as the CP/M machines or maybe even not quite as good. Fine, the manuals were in some very very expensive bindings but (what these days, we'd call) the UX was... "meh!"... I think the most "meh!" of my entire life. Then, a few years later, my mate got his Amiga and that was a lot more like I'd been expecting - at least that had multi-tasking.

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Graphical GUI is extremely redundant.

I serviced some businesses in the late 90s and early 2000s with these lol, I learned about it while in the field as a tech for a large warranty service company, don;t really miss that.

I've had that exact 2400 baud modem, more than 1, boxes too, been 30 years about it but I remember them lol.

you wish

Thanks for this, there's a lot of history that I didn't know

I very much enjoyed this. Still want to write my own wayland compositor and I really wish libDRM had, like, actual documentation. :F

Faggin (if he has completed his physics studies) has studied 4 years at the University

As of 1 month ago, X11 is truly no longer necessary, you heard that right, Wayland with the new Stable 555 Nvidia driver has no more issues. I have more issues with X11 at this point simply due to its limitations, for example the way it handles 2 monitors with different frame rates. Now is the time to Try Wayland again if you have not

You might have to downgrade this to second-biggest blunder with all the failing 13th and 14th gen chips now. Itanium sucked in a lot of ways and ultimately cost Intel a lot of money, but it didn't tank their entire reputation. The current situation has the power to do that.

Whats a lemon regarding cpus

X11 forever! Wayland is a Red Hat conspiracy to turn Linux into just another mobile tablet, video game console or automotive infotainment system.

My first computer was a Nascom 1 with 1K of video RAM and 1K of user RAM, leaving 960 bytes that the monitor ROM didn't use. This was clearly not enough for BASIC or even an assembler, so I did my coding directly in Z80 hex, looking up each code in the fat Mostek book, gradually getting quicker as my brain cached the frequently used instructions. Then I started learning the instruction group patterns and became a lot quicker and eventually memorized them all! I can still code Z80 now without looking up the instruction codes!

If SGI was around today they probably would have had some really cool machines

the intel instruction set it not what I would call a beauty, really. Although they became the somewhat standard, it's far from ideal. little-endianness, messy registers, etc. Motorola or ARM did a much better job, instruction set wise.

I am curious as to the extent to which CPU and OS development occurring in different labs has played out in how OSes and CPUs are perceived at the time. My hunch is that IBM strongly targeted "P4" "P5" and "P6" as to their thinking of making OS/2 with a goal of developing for RISC architectures. When MMX became a key expansion and the remainder of the hardware development didn't align IBM abandoned OS/2 which by this time was no longer really performant on Pentium II or III. Microsoft with NT was able to ride over for "P5", "P6" and beyond. Windows 98 prior to SE got a fairly lemon reputation but it was probably a lot better at running on a Pentium Pro than Windows 95 was. ME which is almost universally apparent as an absolute heap of lemons was definitely a better bet for a Pentium Pro than either Win 95 or Win 98 and it contained a lot that when put onto NT formed XP. I suspect that if XP was not so perfectly aligned with the CPUs in circulation of the time it would have been a dismal failure. I had a laptop which came shipped with Vista and it worked well, seemed perfectly aligned and I can't but conclude that so much of the poor reputation of Vista vs Win 7 ignores the role Vista played in migrating from 32 to x64. Equally Linux appears to have been perfectly timed as a *nix that was plugged into the i686 (Pentium Pro) with the result that at a time in the late 90s and early 2000s an entire block of cheaper workstation users - not buying a SUN or the like - could get close to the mega machine that wasn't costing a megapenny if they were taking up Linux.

My first CD writer was scsi. It was a Philips omniwriter. I bought it and an Adaptec card from my local computer store.

I had SCSI on my DOS and Win9x machine. It was really great. It took most of the load off the CPU; anyone who had a CD burner connected to their SCSI controller had practically no buffer underruns when the CPU was working and the source ISO image came also from a SCSI device. The only problem was the higher price of the hard drives and the increased thermal heat by the SCSI controller. There was a small time window from around 1995 to 1999 when the SCSI drives were only slightly more expensive than EIDI drives. Later on, the price/performance ratio was too poor, so I went back to EIDI/ATA. I also used SCSI to connect a SCSI scanner and later I connected a DVB-C D-box to the PC via SCSI and was able to record and watch the TV recordings on the PC without the need of a DVB-C card.

So OS/2 users became Arch Linux users...

x11 is super cool technology that has no use cases for modern world

Cracker of a video, well done! What is the background music used in your videos?

I suppose they got a new biggest blunder now :/

3:50 eh, it's no Maxis OST but good enough I suppose

Microsoft had SCSI Networking in Win98 and Windows 2000 beta

I have to congratulate you, this is your best video I have seen so far.

OS/2 was a beast of an OS for the PC at its time. IBM screwed up royally. My first job out of college, in the mid-90's, was for a small firm that wrote a SCADA system running on OS/2 to take care of natural gas pumping stations, wastewater treatment plants, and other utility-type facilities. The reason OS/2 was chosen was that it was had full 32-bit multitasking. And when things blew up, they didn't bring down the whole machine. During my time there, we decided to port our software to Windows NT. Setting up the OS/2 development box as a source drive over the network, we could crash the NT box just trying to do a compile. NT always had a problem talking to the real world...

Great video, but what's up with the chaotic background music? It's giving me a splitting headache!

Also Luxor ABC80 and ABC800 were Z80 based. Widely used in education in Sweden. The BASIC on this machine was so successful and great that the inventor gots a call from Bill Gates designing a new operating system

Very fond memories of the Digital VT100s attached to our DEC PDP-11/03. I think it might have had 256KB of memory available to the users!

Thank YOU very much.

Sorry, you are wrong about remote X not being used anymore. In science and engineering, running remote X11 apps is still very common and necessary. For example, even a $25K USD Supermicro workstation is so friggin noisy that you can't be in the same room. Sure, you can use XRDP, but it's often a lot easier and simpler and better to only display the window and not a whole desktop. Also, XRDP often has weird graphical artifacts. As a scientist who actually uses computers to do more than just send Tweets and write emails, the shift to Wayland and away from things like GLX and X11 is really annoying. Now everything, even Linux, is tripping over itself to become the next iPhone or appliance. Sorry, I have Windows and Mac for that, I don't Linux to be my tablet or my video game console.

Great stuff!

OS/2 was a good system, was 32 bit /4gb long before Microsoft got its act together, and was downward compatible with DOS to an extent unmatched by any other operating system to this day. I developed for it. I got my first glimpse of the problem with OS/2 when I printed the graphics driver for it. It was, literally, a foot thick of printout. OS/2 was overcomplicated in the way only IBM could do.

The ISA bus was odd in that it fixed the bad parts of the old S-100 bus, then introduced a new design botch that S-100 didn't have, namely the single side pindown on the back of the chassis. This botch contributed greatly to the reliability issues with ISA, and still exists today. It is "solved" by a back of card lock on the PCI-E bus cards. However, the dual guide nature of busses like the one in the PDP-11, and yes the S-100, remain superior even if they are obsolete. The ultimate bus is/are pin in socket with dual guiderails and end screwdowns, as found in many Ethernet switch platforms. Why didn't various iterations of the PC bus fix this? Tradition!

The Transputer design was stack based

I love this background style... lots of slow "beauty pans" over some of our favourite old machines... with that nice wooden table for contrast. Very nice, very gentle. So much better than the rather hectic computer graphics that I think I've moaned about in the past.

Mention the 5 volt only 8080 the 8085

Zilog trademarked the letter "Z"

I think openstep did have a x11 client you could install. However it was not widely used

I may still be making payments on mine...🙄

Ya'll notice this is one of the best comment sections on any RUclips video you have come across this year? Yup, my education by Bards Tavern BBS and the DFW area. The BBS scene is core to my escape from minimum wage. My first exposure to the scene was in KC, Mo with Magic Lantern BBS (Yeah Mike!) and then in Denton TX's Bards Tavern (Mikester Brau!). BT was a 2-line Amiga CNET BBS system - first Commodore 128 then Amiga 2000, and ending with a 4000 when the internet happened. DFW area systems well-trained me to be one of the first DVD authors in the USA and recruited by Silicon Valley in the late 90's. I knew a lot of Phreaks (M*O*M Nod to Elite Wonders) and suffered the Bell ban for years. Sweat when downloading LD times.... and knowing the fido-net node and his wife's personal number (grin Seafox). But we all seem to have kept our manners and don't get into Flame Wars here. I really enjoyed this delightfully perversely delicious elite content.

27:04 I got a R800 in my Panasonic MSX.

Can we all talk about how Elon Musk stole X11's logo for twitter?

Can't help but wonder what could be done with this idea given modern die techniques and cheap controllers like a Raspberry Pi.

I realize this is an older video, but as a big DEC-head from the 90s, I was wondering if you'd consider doing one of your lovely nerd deep dives into VMS? My favorite OS of all time (with DCL, so deliciously verbose), and all of the juicy Windows NT tie ins (eg VMS +1 letter stuff). Unless of course you already did a video on this topic and I am dumb :)

Well AMD came up with x86 and 64bit processors and if im not mistaken, multicore cpus as well, so Intel should just go away and crawl back under their overpriced rock.

He mentioned Busicom for the 4004, is he gonna mention Datapoint for the 8008? . . . no? damn.